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X-H1 annoying feature!

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Mike G, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. Ripleysbaby

    Ripleysbaby supernatural anesthetist

    Sep 9, 2011
    Cumbria UK
    Garry
    I had noticed this screen slowdown on my XPro2. It doesn't bother me one bit as it reverts instantly with a half press of the shutter button. The power management menu of the XPro2 also allows you to switch this off.
    I can definitely see Mikes issue with the screen refresh rate. After all I'm assuming the X-H1 is primarily for fast action.
    Why would Fuji build in a power save feature that can't be turned off ?
     
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  2. My point is......Has ANYONE addressed Fuji with these complaints? Carping about it on forums isn't going to solve the issue!
     
  3. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    Andy, certainly not going to part with the X-H1 any time soon, it’s niggling that’s all, like my X-T2 and the not switching on fault, eventually solved by a return to Fuji. Just me unloading I’m afraid as it’s niggling me!

    And yes I spoke to Fuji UK support about what they called a “feature” and who promised to feed my feedback to Fuji Japan!
     
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  4. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
    Boost Mode should always be available. There's even a hardware switch on the Booster Grip for it.
     
  5. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    There are some modes that do not allow the use of the boost mode! i’m Not sure which ones though. All it needs is for Fuji to get rid of this “bug” as I’m pretty sure it’s a bug, the term feature to my mind is just a euphemism for a bug. Doesn’t mean I don’t like the X-H1, I really do!

    If they won’t get rid of the “feature” at least allow me to switch if OFF, after all I can do that with the power management menu with variable times or OFF!!!

    I really wish Fuji would talk to me about this problem that is never mentioned anywhere, except on some of the forums
     
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  6. Armanius

    Armanius Bring Jack back!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    Jack
    Rico, I miss your articles!
     
  7. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    There’s also a switch on the bottom selector circle!
     
  8. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
    I am not aware of any configuration that wouldn't allow Boost mode on the T2 and H1. So please back up your claim with an example.
     
  9. Adam Bonn

    Adam Bonn Top Veteran

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    Porto
    Adam Bonn
    Fuji are a bit at the mercy of people complaining...

    We complain about the pants batt life, so they bake in power save

    Then we complain about the power save :D 

    I don’t mind the jittery evf, it’s the camer’s way of telling me to either hit the shutter or hit the power button

    Ymmv
     
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  10. Bobby Tingle

    Bobby Tingle Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    The problem is that Fuji uses software fixes like power saving mode instead of designing better batteries. I think they really missed the opportunity to utilize the space in the battery grips at least, to have a larger battery with higher capacity.
     
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  11. Adam Bonn

    Adam Bonn Top Veteran

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    Jan 13, 2016
    Porto
    Adam Bonn
    After yonks with a selection of cameras that all take the same batt, Sony now use higher capacity ones, so I assume Fuji will follow suit...

    I can already see the “FFS fuji, I own x number of W126 batteries why did you ***holes go and change it” threads on DPR in my imagination :D  :D 
     
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  12. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Oct 7, 2016
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    Mike Gorman
    Rico, I really can’t recall where I read the info about the boost mode, and I must admit to not trying out those modes! Mea culpa.

    All I would like is the ability to turn that “feature off” is that really so bad, after all I can turn off the Power Management via a menu!
     
  13. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
    We already know how to turn it off. Enable Boost mode.
     
  14. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    Rico, that means a greater battery drain when using the boost mode, I still think this is a bug and it should be sorted! If this really is a feature why isn’t it documented in the manual? And it spoils a brilliant camera. And of course there are other bugs which are being fixed at the end of March and the process of fixing bugs is something Fujifilm is very good at. This so called feature in the already economy mode “Normal” just doesn’t make sense!
     
  15. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
    Of course it means greater battery drain. The higher frame rate of the LCD and EVF drains the battery. Hence it's only available in Boost mode.

    This "bug" is standard in the X-T2 since firmware 1.00. So either switch on Boost mode for fast frame rates or "enjoy" the mandatory battery saving function of standard mode. Which is probably there to achieve the CIPA battery life figure in the spec sheet which is measured at factory settings (aka Boost mode off).
     
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  16. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    I’m hearing what you say Rico, and I do use Boost Mode, but that doesn’t explain why I can’t turn this “cheat feature” off, or why this “feature” is not documented?
    And it is still very annoying! for what I’m sure is its minimal battery saving potential!

    One day perhaps Fuji will get rid of it? Enjoy was not the word I was thinking of.
     
  17. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Mike Gorman
    Please remind me what “CIPA” stands for?
     
  18. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
    So you really believe that Fujifilm implements this annoying mandatory energy saving feature fully knowing that it doesn't save any meaningful amount of energy (aka it's virtually useless)? Given that the live view (and hence its frame rate) is the major source of energy consumption in any mirrorless camera, that's quite a statement.

    As mentioned several times before, it's easy to turn off by switching on Boost mode. Less savings, better performance.

    Pretty much all X series cameras arrive with more or less useless factory settings that are basically energy saving settings to get decent CIPA test performance for the spec sheet (battery life, startup time, etc.). For specs that tell maximum performance figures such as shortest AF time, the companies always refer to "their own testing", then with non-factory settings.

    The same applies to all other models from Japanese camera manufacturers. And Leica and Hasselblad, too, as they also commit to the CIPA standard ratings.
     
  19. flysurfer

    flysurfer Hall of Famer

    Aug 31, 2011
  20. Mike G

    Mike G Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Oct 7, 2016
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    Mike Gorman
    Thanks Rico, I always seem to forget Google, oops.

    Again I see what you write, but it doesn’t stop this “feature” being irritating when the only seeming way to stop it is to expend even more energy using the boost mode! Hey ho I give in, thanks Rico for your explanation and patience with this old curmudgeon, I still love the X-H1, the funny thing is I don’t remember this situation with my X-T2, again hey ho.:crying:
     
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