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Problem for the next X100 iteration.

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by bilzmale, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. bilzmale

    bilzmale Super Moderator Emeritus Subscribing Member

    Jul 17, 2010
    Perth, Western Australia
    Bill Shinnick
    We started with just the name X100 and for the (S)econd model Fuji chose X100S. In the same vein the (T)hird and (F)ourth models were the X100T and the X100F.
    Assuming there will be a (F)ifth model it can't be another X100F and the (S)sixth and (S)eventh models will be problematic too.

    I suspect Fuji will use Roman numerals as the X100V, X100VI etc.

    What do you think and what feature(s) would you want in the V? :dance2:
     
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  2. bartjeej

    bartjeej Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    - Weather sealing (!!!!!!!!... Dammit Fuji, people have been asking for this since the original X100, just get it done!)
    - Usb-c charging instead of micro usb

    And less important:
    - ... Well if I'm dreaming, a 36x16mm pano sensor that can be cropped to regular 24x16mm aps-c, like a fixed-lens, digital Fuji TX1 / Hasselblad Xpan
    - I wouldnt be opposed to a tilting screen. And no, they dont make much difference in reliability, the things hardly ever break even on cameras used roughly.
     
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  3. addieleman

    addieleman Regular

    54
    Oct 20, 2012
    The Netherlands
    Ad Dieleman
    Same form factor. Same lens spec, but with more contrast and less flare. Flip-up LCD. Image stabilization. This wish list is why I decided to forego the X100F and stick with my Sony A7R2 even though it is heavier.
     
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  4. Bobby Tingle

    Bobby Tingle Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    There are rumors of the name x200 floating around. But they are rumors at best.

    Other than that, it will be interesting to see if there is a x100 model before the X-Pro3.

    Features wise, I’d like to see AF performance equal to the current at the time XPro and XT bodies. The ability to use the digital TC with raw files. Dual card slots. And weather sealing.
     
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  5. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I'm going to just wish for the moon here.

    Get rid of all buttons and have a telekinetic UI.

    And add weather sealing.
     
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  6. Weather sealing. That is all. oh wait... a smaller size. Cant it be the size of the x70?
     
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  7. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    I have had every iteration of the X100 from the first to the current. I like them a lot for what they are, and they have become more usable and capable as they have evolved.

    I have said this many times before, but I think it bears repeating.

    Evolution not revolution.

    If I wanted a flippy screen, a touchscreen, etc I would buy a Sony* or a Panasonic. I buy a Fuji because I like a Fuji. It does not have those things, nor does it need them to sell. I DO NOT WANT ALL CAMERAS TO BE THE SAME. Choice is a good thing.

    The only changes I would like to see in the next evolutionary iteration are largely under the bonnet and address the shortcomings of the new functionality introduced in the F.

    - Raw with the digital zoom (as per Ricoh GR)
    - Film simulation bracketing with the digital zoom

    Weatherproofing would be nice, but then I have an X-Pro2 already so I'm not that bothered.

    The name? A rose by any other...




    *For anyone hoping to catch me out through pedantry, yes, it's true I have indeed just bought a Sony RX100 with a flippy (though not touch) screen. I will forgive it and do the sensible thing - firmly tape the bugger down.
     
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  8. drd1135

    drd1135 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Lexington, Virginia
    Steve
    Sadly, my brain probably works more like the Olympus menu system. :shakehead:
     
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  9. drd1135

    drd1135 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Lexington, Virginia
    Steve
    That would nice. The X70 is nice little camera but I would prefer a 35 mm focal length.
     
  10. bartjeej

    bartjeej Hall of Famer

    Nov 12, 2010
    bart
    You mean like the choice to leave the tilting screen flush with the camera body? ;-)

    As was mentioned before, being able to use the teleconverter in raw would be nice!
     
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  11. drd1135

    drd1135 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Lexington, Virginia
    Steve
    The new XF10 (x70 replacement) has apparently lost the tilt screen and is much simplified and cheaper.
     
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  12. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    You mean like the choice to leave the tilting screen flush with the camera body? ;-)

    That's not a choice, that's an option. ;)  The choice is to be able to buy a camera without unwanted "features". It's a bit like saying when you buy a car you get a caravan too. You never have to use it, but it's yours and it's included in the price. You will have to take care of it, find somewhere to park it, keep it clean, protect it from damage... You never wanted it, you just wanted a car, but all cars come with a caravan now, so tough...
     
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  13. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I suspect that if they were to make two new X100 cameras that were identical in every way except that one had a tilting screen and one didn't, that sales of the tilty version would soundly outsell that of the fixed screen.

    I also don't think that changing the screen from a fixed one to a tilty one fundamentally changes the camera at all. Actually, it more evolutionary than revolutionary.

    Here's a question for you @Lightmancer@Lightmancer , if Fuji gave us a camera with one of your new requested features, but added a tilty screen, would you buy it or pass?
     
  14. Bobby Tingle

    Bobby Tingle Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2013
    Louisville, Ky
    Does anyone know if the difference in resolution between the rear screen of the X-Pro2 and X-T2 is a comprise which has to made because of the ability to tilt/swivel? Or is it a choice made by Fuji to offer different features to different types of shooters?
     
  15. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I would presume the former.
     
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  16. Lightmancer

    Lightmancer Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Sunny Frimley
    Bill Palmer
    Tilty I would consider, especially if I could rotate it through 180 degrees and get rid of it altogether or, as I am doing with the Sony, taping it firmly down. I just resent paying the price and the compromise.

    Touch I would run a mile...
     
  17. Luke

    Luke Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Nov 11, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI USA
    Luke
    I'm with you on this 100%. Let me rotate that rascal all the way so I never even need to look at a screen. Never needed screens back in the old days. So if someone sees it closed, they'll assume it is a proper film camera.

    I might pay an extra $100 for NO rear screen.
     
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  18. mikEm13

    mikEm13 Veteran

    340
    Feb 7, 2017
    Oh no Luke don't tell Fuji that tell them to charge $100 less for no screen. :biggrin::biggrin:
     
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  19. drd1135

    drd1135 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Lexington, Virginia
    Steve
    Imagine what it would cost not to buy it at all.
     
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  20. NoSeconds

    NoSeconds Top Veteran

    737
    Jan 1, 2017
    Troy
    You guys crack me up, eschewing a large lcd screen in favour of a teeny tiny little one... :rofl:
     
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