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OMG.......those kind of "reviews" need to stop. Period. It's like handing a kid a firecracker and asking him how he likes it (and asking before it explodes)
OMG.......those kind of "reviews" need to stop. Period. It's like handing a kid a firecracker and asking him how he likes it (and asking before it explodes)
Are you referring to the Ming Thein review?
I think that increasingly we may see 28mm as a "new normal". Not that it isn't a touch too wide for most.......but there are now enough megapickles that each frame can be 28, 35 OR 50. I don't do the fancy maths, but I remember when Olympus said that they would never see the need to go past 6MP (or maybe it was 8 or 9). At the time I felt that was accurate. So now that we have 24MP sensors as the norm.....is a crop of a 28mm shot to a 50mm FOV still give you a a 6 or 8 MP image?
Probably did miss your point. It's not that my arguments work for me - this CAMERA would work for me. I know my preferences really well by now. I know what features matter to me and which don't and this one has all the ones I care about, and probably several I don't care about. Nonetheless, I just don't have that kind of scratch floating around, the Coolpix A does the same things probably 90% as well, the Df with the right lens probably does it every bit as well with a bit of a size/weight penalty, and I HAVE both of those cameras. So I'll enjoy this one from the sidelines, much as I might like to be in the game...
Anyway, happy shooting with whatever combination of gear floats your boat.
-Ray
Go for the Leica. Eye seemed too get buy wivout n nedukayshun init.Hm... College tuition or Leica Q???
Very true. It's a downside of all fixed lens cameras, but it's a lot easier to stomach in something that costs several hundred dollars than a few thousand! Ricoh tried to get past that to some degree with the GXR, but by combining the lens and sensor in the same module, they didn't leave anything terribly important for the body to do, so you'd still have to replace the lens and sensor at the same time. Maybe for higher end cameras like this and the RX1, where so much value is in the lens, they should think about some way of doing an upgradable sensor program, where you can send the camera in every few years and have a newer, more up to date sensor, installed. Don't know how realistic, but seems one way to improve the cost-benefit with cameras like this. I think it's tough to beat interchangeable lens systems on a lot of levels, but of course they have their downsides too, generally related to size when you can't bury a good portion of the lens inside the body. And there's also something about the perfection of mating a sensor and lens in a body - even down to the level of the small sensor GRD cameras, it really made a difference. In some sense, NOTHING I've used has matched the best of the images I got out of the RX1.It looks like a winner but for me the 28mm is my least used fl. What worries me more, and this applies to the RX1 too, is that once the sensor fails and it becomes an obsolete model, the camera is then useless. That beautiful lens would be wasted.
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I like 28mm a LOT, but not nearly enough to spend like this on it. Maybe in a couple of years, if the used prices get down below $2000 and if these don't have Leica's typical QC problems, I'd think about getting one then. Leica gear (at least the non-Panasonic Leica gear) doesn't usually tend to depreciate that much, but this is a new direction for them and it seems to be drawing radically more interest than any of their other recent high end offerings.
Ray, I think you doth protest too much... I have a feeling I'm going to log in several months down the line and you'll have a Q in your hands somehow anyway - hahah.
The depreciation factor on the Q should be interesting. The RX1 pricing took a nose dive despite it being a well loved and excellent camera. I'm curious if the Q will have a similar trajectory or if it'll be more typical of the Leica brand's general propensity to hold value. I would have to imagine used value of the Q would also be affected if/when there is any response from Sony in form of an RX1 mkII or similar.
Ray, I think you doth protest too much... I have a feeling I'm going to log in several months down the line and you'll have a Q in your hands somehow anyway - hahah.
The depreciation factor on the Q should be interesting. The RX1 pricing took a nose dive despite it being a well loved and excellent camera. I'm curious if the Q will have a similar trajectory or if it'll be more typical of the Leica brand's general propensity to hold value. I would have to imagine used value of the Q would also be affected if/when there is any response from Sony in form of an RX1 mkII or similar.