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Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Lightmancer, Sep 10, 2014.
Can't imagine upgrading from the X100S to this, although if you're looking for the first time, it would be a better place to start. It improves a few remaining issues with the X100s - 1/3 stops on the aperture ring and the ability to customize a few more buttons are BIG improvements to me, but the rest of the stuff doesn't sound like much. For manual focus fans, having the split image show in the OVF is a step up from "focus check" in the last model, but not much of one. I just don't see much here that matters that they couldn't have done in firmware (other than the 1/3 stops on the aperture ring, and maybe even that...
Exposure compensation in manual mode is a pretty big improvement IMO (although it could've been fixed in firmware as well).
Looks a bit sleeker
1/32.000 is pretty cool
Yeah, faster shutter speed is a good thing. The ISO - exposure comp thing seems no larger a fix than allowing for minimum shutter speeds up to 1/500 which are in the XE2 and XT1 and were added via firmware to the XE1 and X-Pro and maybe others. Not sure if the XM, XA, or X100s ever got that one, but clearly they could have and should have...
Not saying it isn't an improvement, just not much of one... If I wanted one of these cameras for the first time now, I'd probably buy this one. But if I already owned an X100s, I can't imagine I'd upgrade...
I've never felt the need to "upgrade" from the original X100. It's still may fave camera to use. There's a couple new features that I would really like (that 1/32000 is awesome and the ability to link spot metering to the AF area is pretty cool.....I think I'd use that fairly often for difficult lighting situations instead of saying I'll just fix it in post).
In the end, the new features are nice and I'm happy they continue to refine this classic camera. But I don't need to 'upgrade'. I'm a little surprised they didn't add a tilty screen (it may be heresy to even mention it) and I suppose it would turn off as many as it would turn on. Anyways, this camera demands to be used at eye level so it's not important.
Spot AF metering is nice! So is the addition of face detection. Curious to see the usage of split prism in OVF.
The camera I really want to see updated is the RX1. Add a pop up EVF like RX100iii and the A6000's AF system. I'd be in camera heaven.
I donno, I would LOVE to have a tilty screen on my old X100. The fact that it's so small always meant it was with me wherever I was, and there were shots that would've been a ton easier to frame if I could see the screen down at ground level, over a fence, whatever. And I still prefer the sensor output of the X100 to anything X Trans, too.
Phew that was a close call I thought that I was going to have an attack of GAS.
A tilting screen and a stabiliser would make this more appealing.
I've never found the manual focusing aids in the X100S to be very useful so putting the split image into the optical viewfinder ( if I've got that right? ) seems pointless.
Actually I quite like the sound of that. I like to use the OVF whenever possible on the X100 but you don't always know if focus is in the correct area.... you can guess that its in the right ball park based on the focus distance indicator or using the focus lock box, but it's not always accurate, so I think I would be happy with the split image in the OVF
im with supreme vice chancellor Luke... ill be keeping my original x100, i still dont see a reason to upgrade
I still have my original X100 too. I like the rendering from that sensor more than the Xtran sensors. My biggest gripe is AF accuracy. I still sometimes get photos that are not in focus even though I have focus confirmation.
Glad I'm not alone.
I want that too but per SAR:
No other new camera from Sony at Photokina! (SR5) New generation sensor and camera(s) release in January!
I think the sensor tech peaked for a while, so it is small IQ improvements on the cameras until next gen comes... We'll see if RX1 will be updated soon...
Too bad Fuji won't offer a Bayer-sensored version of the X100T. But, in the meantime, it very likely will be a decision between this camera and the Panasonic LX100 for me. Sure, they're two different classes of cameras but the price differential probably won't be more than three hundred dollars. Which means there's only money for one.
LX100 is going to be considerably bigger due to the fast zoom lens. It sounds like a pretty cool camera though.
Really like how Fuji keeps making this camera better. But I am keeping my original X100 for now.
Okay... here's a question for those who have one of the X100 cameras: Is opting for an original X100 - a few can still be bought brand new for about $840 - a logical option? I can't imagine the price of the X100S is going to drop that quickly once the X100T is available. it took forever for the X100 to reach its current price.
So long as you don't care about video, the advantages of the newer models are, to my mind, just about worth the price difference if you're buying new. I bought my perfectly functioning, SAB-treated X100 used for a couple of hundred euros less than it'd cost new. If you don't care about buying new, that's something that might change the equation.
I think I saw one used here in incredible shape for like $500 or so? I know your mileage may vary, but mine has hiked for 5 days to Machu Picchu, generated over 30,000 images in 2 years, is all nicked up and worn, and is still functionally perfect. If I found a clean used SAB-proof example for $500 I'd take it. Again, more bells and whistles on the newer models, but they got SO much right on the first one, that it's a great camera. Much greater than $500. I would not buy one new for $840 anymore, though. Too close to the price of newer models, and after a few years I don't care about saving a hundred bucks or so.
I would buy a new for $840. It's an awesome camera. But the only time I even CONSIDER buying a new camera is if it is such a new model that there are no used ones out there. There's a steady stream of minty used ones at or below the $600 mark. That frees up $250-$300 to spend on MORE cameras