Showcase Canon 85mm F1.5, Super-Speed Telephoto

Discussion in 'Leica' started by BrianS, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. BrianS

    BrianS Super Moderator

    Apr 3, 2013
    This lens is the Canon answer to the Summarex 85 1.5 and the Nikkor-SC 8.5cm F1.5. Canon made about 2350 (Peter Kitchingman) of these lenses, Leica made about 4000 Summarex's, and Nikon made about 2000 8.5cm F1.5 lenses total, about 500 in Leica mount. The Canon sells for a fraction of the price of the other two. I paid $425 for this lens, they routinely go for under $700.

    The Canon 85 F1.5 is a Planar type lens, 7 elements in 4 groups, arranged 1-3-2-1, identical configuration of the 5cm F1.5 Simlar lens that came with my Leotax. A uniquely Japanese formula lens, computed in 1937. I have the Simlar. The Leica lens is a Planar type, 7 elements in 5 groups, 1-2-2-1-1, similar to the 5cm F1.5 Leitz Xenon. The Nikkor is a 7 element in 3 group Sonnar, 1-3-3.

    I've never shot with the Summarex or the Nikkor. I am very, very happy with the results from the Canon. This lens is reputed to be prone to flare, low-contrast, and soft. The glass on mine is close to perfect, no internal haze. It is much sharper than I thought it would be, and seems to be higher contrast than the Canon 85/2 that I owned. Swirly Bokeh, but well corrected for spherical aberration.

    Wide-Open on the M9, ISO2500.

    32960363616_478857140e_b.jpg Marine Museum by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

    Full res Jpeg uploaded for this shot. The battery was weak, some shots show banding. But not this one.

    ISO 160, wide-open:

    32186022233_441c26c000_b.jpg Marine Museum by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

    I chose this shot for the reflection in the picture. The lens handled it quite well.

    The only downside of the lens: Wide-Open in direct sun and some high-contrast light, I noted Purple Fringing. I used LR on a few shots to get rid of it.

    Closest Focus, wide-open.

    32619594390_98c49313ed_b.jpg Marine Museum by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

    New memorial at the Marine Museum.

    32186021453_0e337f9e48_b.jpg Marine Museum by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

    Focus is PERFECT on my M9.
     
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  2. BrianS

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    33001723025_a0ceb8bceb_b.jpg Canon 85 F1.5 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

    In my opinion, this lens is highly under-rated. If I run into a Summarex or Nikkor-SC 85/1.5 anywhere near this price, I will grab them. But given the performance of this lens- no need to spend $1500~$3000 on them. The Canon was made in about the same numbers as the Nikkor and Leitz lens. I doubt the difference is due to performance. I think Canon owners have just kept this lens a secret...
     
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  6. carlb

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    Feb 6, 2013
    Looks to be a superb portrait lens. Sharp, great color and bokeh!
     
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  9. carlb

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    Feb 6, 2013
    Ugh! I'm always 'ginger' with the sensor cleaning on these, so I still have artifacts even after cleaning. Don't know if those are corrosion or not. I suppose if they change location, they're not corrosion, heh.

    LTM, not M, right? I should look at getting the adapter, sure opens up the lenses that can be RF focused.
     
  10. BrianS

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    Apr 3, 2013
    The M Monochrom showed a "scar" that did not move after wet cleaning. Bright spots, "Pits?" showed up rather than typical dark spots. The M9 sensor: nothing stayed in the same position after cleaning.

    The Voigtlander adapters are the best. This lens is amazing. I will take it, and the Simlar 5cm F1.5 for an outing. I do not know of other 1-3-2-1 Planar formula lenses.
     
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  11. Raid

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    Dec 15, 2011
    Canon 85/1.5 on Olympus E-P2

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  12. BrianS

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    Apr 3, 2013
    They were so Little! and not that long ago.

    We need a Then and Now thread for our Kids.
     
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    Dec 15, 2011
    Yes, we do.
     
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  18. M. Valdemar

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    Nice shots. I've got a mint LTM 85mm f/1.5 Nikkor that I have to dig out and try again. I've only used it a few times since I got it about 15 years ago.
     
  19. BrianS

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    Apr 3, 2013
    The Nikkor is a Sonnar formula lens- would love to see some pictures with it posted on Leicaplace.
     
  20. Raid

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    Dec 15, 2011
    I have a Canon 85/1.5. How would you compare it optically with the Nikon 85/1.5?