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- Kyle Krug
Wow, those noise results surprise the hell out of me. Out here in the real world, away from the test lab, I find the noise acceptable up to 3200. Now I have to decide whether to believe their test results or my lyin' eyes...
Does the RX100 have a very low noise reduction by default?
If this is typical of what you can get at ISO 6400, then there is nothing wrong with the RX100. Some people get their jollies viewing at 100%. Personally, I don't have time for that. And, coming from the film era, a little grain won't upset me.
Yeah, I get that. But its saying the RX100 has more noise at ISO 80 than the S100 does at ISO 400, which just seems questionable to me. The S100 didn't look more than marginally better than the S90/95 and those were pretty poor at 400. 80 isn't the native base ISO on the RX100 - 125 is. But still, it just doesn't sound right to me. Nonetheless, I don't really care - I know how I'm comfortable actually using it and that's my bottom line...If I remember correctly, Popular photo does not use a sliding scale for IQ and sensor size. So the noise ratings are absolute. The same ratings apply to a tiny point and shoot and a full frame monster. If a $5,000 full frame body created shots like this you would call the performance poor. We can adjust our expectations accordingly, but having the ratings be absolute and measurable for comparison's sake is important.
Then again, here's a 6400 shot in very low light (much darker than the photo appears) and it doesn't suck. There are some artifacts at the pixel level, but even at full screen on a 27 inch monitor, its quite passable, let alone a small display like this:
If I remember correctly, Popular photo does not use a sliding scale for IQ and sensor size. So the noise ratings are absolute. The same ratings apply to a tiny point and shoot and a full frame monster. If a $5,000 full frame body created shots like this you would call the performance poor. We can adjust our expectations accordingly, but having the ratings be absolute and measurable for comparison's sake is important.
Again, that goes completely against my experience. I was OK with the EPL3 at 1600, but not above. The X-Pro is just amazing at 6400. Soooooo, they can say what they want and maybe they're right on some level, but it just doesn't match my experience...Looks pretty great to me, Ray. I probably would have guessed was ISO 1600.
I wondered if it was NR or maybe based on a pixel-basis, but then I saw the E-PL3 and results and realized that PopPhoto.com is absolutely correct in their testing methodology and these results can help you accurately compare different cameras:
E-PL3 the new low noise champ:
better than X-Pro1!
Again, that goes completely against my experience. I was OK with the EPL3 at 1600, but not above. The X-Pro is just amazing at 6400. Soooooo, they can say what they want and maybe they're right on some level, but it just doesn't match my experience...
-Ray